Comments on: Snakes and ladders again http://canute1.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/snakes-and-ladders-again/ Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:53:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: canute1 http://canute1.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/snakes-and-ladders-again/#comment-583 canute1 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:16:18 +0000 http://canute1.wordpress.com/?p=726#comment-583 Rick, Thanks for these referecnes. The book edited by John Hawley looks very interesting , though some of the material is at odds with the teachings of several modern running gurus. In particular the evidence presented in chapter 3 that shoes are beneficial in reducing shock appears to is at odds with the teachings of the Pose school , which emphasizes minimal footwear. Unfortunately, the force plate data presented in that chapter are for a heel-striker. I would love to see force plate data for a mid-foot or fore-foot striker. However, there appears to be minimal enthusiasm among Pose experts to produce such force plate data, so the question remains unresolved. As a mid-foot striker who also happens to have mild but potentially painful deformities of my feet, my own experience suggests that shoes do have a significant protective effect, and I do not use minimalist shoes Rick, Thanks for these referecnes. The book edited by John Hawley looks very interesting , though some of the material is at odds with the teachings of several modern running gurus. In particular the evidence presented in chapter 3 that shoes are beneficial in reducing shock appears to is at odds with the teachings of the Pose school , which emphasizes minimal footwear. Unfortunately, the force plate data presented in that chapter are for a heel-striker. I would love to see force plate data for a mid-foot or fore-foot striker. However, there appears to be minimal enthusiasm among Pose experts to produce such force plate data, so the question remains unresolved. As a mid-foot striker who also happens to have mild but potentially painful deformities of my feet, my own experience suggests that shoes do have a significant protective effect, and I do not use minimalist shoes

]]> By: RICKS RUNNING http://canute1.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/snakes-and-ladders-again/#comment-580 RICKS RUNNING Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:09:27 +0000 http://canute1.wordpress.com/?p=726#comment-580 And heres an interesting book on running biomechanics http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=V245RiDrrxwC&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=stride+length+and+effect+of+landing+impact&source=bl&ots=I2hmupluXN&sig=Grb7EGQ8b8AlYv_Kf2ADVD7S8a4&hl=en&ei=pFFXSqu5M4PMjAfE7tnNDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8 And heres an interesting book on running biomechanics
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=V245RiDrrxwC&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=stride+length+and+effect+of+landing+impact&source=bl&ots=I2hmupluXN&sig=Grb7EGQ8b8AlYv_Kf2ADVD7S8a4&hl=en&ei=pFFXSqu5M4PMjAfE7tnNDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8

]]> By: RICKS RUNNING http://canute1.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/snakes-and-ladders-again/#comment-579 RICKS RUNNING Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:02:18 +0000 http://canute1.wordpress.com/?p=726#comment-579 http://www.fitnessintuition.com/images/peter_snell.pdf http://www.fitnessintuition.com/images/peter_snell.pdf

]]> By: RICKS RUNNING http://canute1.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/snakes-and-ladders-again/#comment-578 RICKS RUNNING Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:01:34 +0000 http://canute1.wordpress.com/?p=726#comment-578 found this on 'younger legs' website LINK: If you've got some time, this is a terrific interview with Peter Snell on all things running and training related. found this on ‘younger legs’ website
LINK: If you’ve got some time, this is a terrific interview with Peter Snell on all things running and training related.

]]> By: Ewen http://canute1.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/snakes-and-ladders-again/#comment-576 Ewen Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:23:21 +0000 http://canute1.wordpress.com/?p=726#comment-576 That's good news Canute. I've noticed the same thing after having so many days off in the past 4 weeks - HR much higher than before. Today for example, an RS value of 824 on a course where I'm usually down around the 700 mark. Enjoy your running for the rest of summer. My guess is you'd have a good chance of regaining the fitness with 4-6 weeks of uninterrupted training. That’s good news Canute. I’ve noticed the same thing after having so many days off in the past 4 weeks – HR much higher than before. Today for example, an RS value of 824 on a course where I’m usually down around the 700 mark.

Enjoy your running for the rest of summer. My guess is you’d have a good chance of regaining the fitness with 4-6 weeks of uninterrupted training.

]]> By: RICKS RUNNING http://canute1.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/snakes-and-ladders-again/#comment-575 RICKS RUNNING Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:13:32 +0000 http://canute1.wordpress.com/?p=726#comment-575 Hi canute, ITS GOOD NEWS THAT YOUR ABLE TO RUN IN THE FRESH AIR AGAIN. Thanks once again for your comments on running form and power cranks. One point on short stride and increased impact, I think the amount of impact created by a runner most vary a great deal depending on how reactive the athlete is to landing. Many runners simply leave there foot out front to come crashing down to the ground, the reactive runner starts to bring their foot back at the speed of the ground moving under them then first touches down lightly on the ball of the foot before taking the full weight over the whole of the foot. Also running tall seems to help you float over the road with less impact and keeping the jump stage low also reduces impact!. What was really interesting was a scientific study that found the more padding in the shoe then the less reactive was the runner in dealing with the impact! Infact the most cushioned shoes caused the greatest impact and bare foot running created the least! Another thing I’ve found quite useful is to concentrate on lifting my knee slightly instead of concentration on landing, this seems to give a feeling of lightness! On the power cranks, like you say the most important thing with running is adapting to the stress of the impact of running, I know this only to well as I spent 10 years cycle racing before I started running, it took my a long time to adapt to full weight bearing exercise and even 7 time TOUR DE FRANCE winner Lance Amstrong had many problems as he trained for the New York marathon! What would be interesting would be a scientific report on comparing impact forces between elite runners and average runners. Hi canute,
ITS GOOD NEWS THAT YOUR ABLE TO RUN IN THE FRESH AIR AGAIN.
Thanks once again for your comments on running form and power cranks.
One point on short stride and increased impact, I think the amount of impact created by a runner most vary a great deal depending on how reactive the athlete is to landing.
Many runners simply leave there foot out front to come crashing down to the ground, the reactive runner starts to bring their foot back at the speed of the ground moving under them then first touches down lightly on the ball of the foot before taking the full weight over the whole of the foot.
Also running tall seems to help you float over the road with less impact and keeping the jump stage low also reduces impact!.
What was really interesting was a scientific study that found the more padding in the shoe then the less reactive was the runner in dealing with the impact! Infact the most cushioned shoes caused the greatest impact and bare foot running created the least!
Another thing I’ve found quite useful is to concentrate on lifting my knee slightly instead of concentration on landing, this seems to give a feeling of lightness!
On the power cranks, like you say the most important thing with running is adapting to the stress of the impact of running, I know this only to well as I spent 10 years cycle racing before I started running, it took my a long time to adapt to full weight bearing exercise and even 7 time TOUR DE FRANCE winner Lance Amstrong had many problems as he trained for the New York marathon!
What would be interesting would be a scientific report on comparing impact forces between elite runners and average runners.

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